Once I first wrote about boomer shooters final yr on Steam Deck and likewise on Switch, except for New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical identify was Andrew Hulshult who has completed some superb music through the years. He just lately was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having wished to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to speak with him on name for just a few hours to debate sport soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s taking part in, and much more. This interview was completed on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Similar to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than typical, and that is doubtless the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us slightly bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my identify’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as nicely. I like to only write music on my own typically when it’s not for a sport or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the sport and movie trade doing sound design, soundtracks, and typically voice appearing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem challenge and likewise Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was truly simply type of like, I believe that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here slightly bit. So I believe Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I believe he nonetheless does, mainly he was remaking maps in the course of Unreal Engine 3 of like a few of the unique Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I believe one in all them that acquired a variety of hits was like the entire 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as nicely. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. You already know, like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Perhaps this might be enjoyable. Like, I actually appreciated Duke 3D again within the day. And he mentioned, yeah, certain. You already know, like if you wish to remake a few of the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I wished to type of discover ways to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began type of remaking a few of the previous Duke 3D tracks. That type of spawned into, you realize, not rather a lot, not rather a lot was completed in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was identical to, you realize, like some odds and ends stuff. By some means that became Apogee, Terry Nagy, head searching us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on known as Rise of the Triad in case you guys wish to give it a attempt. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these folks now are like, you realize, on the, we had been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However mainly after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, mentioned, hey, we’re . And Fred mentioned sure on our aspect. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of once I lastly acquired an interview with him, I believe it was simpler for me to fulfill Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that completed, I had New Blood coated. I just lately additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Thing, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly taking place.
We each giggle.
TA: I bear in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how while you had been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you had been in demand within the trade. So when that door closed, instantly you had like a, like hundreds of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some enormous titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I wish to understand how you’ve modified as a musician and as knowledgeable from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s an important query. Man, beginning off within the trade with, you realize, doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we had been, what we had been simply speaking about, it was a very contemporary expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re entering into. After which a variety of instances you’re like, I don’t even know what I needs to be getting paid, you realize, like you’ve an thought, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading via these waters is attention-grabbing and likewise harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve discovered has been all from, you realize, tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to make it possible for we do that once more, you realize.
It’s studying the whole time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on rather a lot, which is, you realize, they only, they wish to make actually, actually superior, stunning artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing unsuitable with that. It’s best to, that needs to be the core precept that you simply do. However it’s a must to just be sure you receives a commission in an effort to proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t wish to work within the trade anymore. And that, to return to what you had been speaking about with, I didn’t understand how a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from all the pieces proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be completed with video games. I used to be like, you realize what, like there’s not a variety of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to try to do one thing else. And I didn’t notice till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals wished to rent me. And like, it’s a type of bizarre issues the place like, I’m certain you’ll be able to most likely relate. When you’ve a job, like a day job, in case you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you will get sucked into that complete cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this might be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing nicely for them. They wished to provide me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of a number of different issues in life. And that’s type of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing unhealthy about them. It’s simply while you’re working for an organization quite than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do should stroll on landmines. You do should get blown up a few instances till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they mentioned, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I assume I’ll go determine this out now. After which unexpectedly, DUSK, you realize, like that’s actually the subsequent factor that and AMID EVIL had been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get a variety of questions on sport music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this entire factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the greatest false impression that folks each within the trade and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The largest false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you’ll be able to’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal type of factor, a few of my buddies and a few of my household are like, you’ve the best job. I’m like, you don’t have any f***ing thought. You already know, stroll in my footwear for a day and let’s speak once more. Yeah, it’s actually troublesome since you, you actually should trick your self into entering into no matter ambiance or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed all the pieces out. That is their imaginative and prescient. You must step into it and it’s a must to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally should have the arrogance to say, nicely, that is what I believe we should always do and why we should always do it. And there’s a variety of, there’s a variety of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s complicated in a variety of other ways. The artwork aspect of it’s laborious sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is troublesome already, however then, um, explaining to folks why you wish to go this path and typically even arguing to get that path is usually a trouble in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the most important false impression is that it’s simple and that it’s not simple. I swear to God, so many instances my buddies are like, ah, you’ve acquired the best job. I’m like, no, man, I stay, I, I threw 100 pound containers from 6 AM to 4 PM. And typically I miss that.
Whiskey and occasional fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs had been composed between 9pm and 3am.
The extra you realize
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally wish to speak rather a lot about your gear, however earlier than that, I believe we should always focus on a few of the sport particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I wished to reference. That is fairly an previous one (linked above). Properly, I truly didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till just lately. I had heard about it and I had heard that a variety of my buddies purchased that launch. They mentioned that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when people made a giant deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I wished to correctly attempt it then. I wished to speak about your thought course of between like, you realize, redoing these tracks and arising with your individual flare on them, as a result of anybody who, not less than any fan of yours, in the event that they take heed to that, they realize it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The firstly factor was to be sure you respect your elders. I wished to make it possible for no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served all the pieces that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already moving into one thing nicely established again within the day. Individuals are very accustomed to this. In case you f*** it up, you’re toast. That was my first skilled gig. Moving into that type of strain.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and metallic stuff predominantly? That’s the type of music I take heed to on a regular basis. They mentioned let’s attempt it. Even Terry was like you must do it.
Actually they only kinda gave me free reign to provide it a attempt on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Method” and I bear in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my complete profession. By no means had a nasty piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I bear in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Method”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the precise path however it appears like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t combined accurately. I used to be simply excited handy him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a type of moments the place I’m going to should discover ways to settle for suggestions even when it’s not from a musician and I do know that they imply nicely. I remixed a few issues and I believe that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he mentioned it was approach higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It type of simply got here from the guts. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is moving into another person’s footwear, I’ve to do not forget that the supply materials comes first, then you definately put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you’ll be able to put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and hold and beautify, however simply make it possible for the home continues to be the identical home that folks bear in mind.
Now to handle the Tweet above, Whiskey and occasional fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs had been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would recurrently take me all the way down to a bar known as Hula Arms. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me house and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one observe in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to copy a particular sound and it was the right option to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s alleged to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I really like that music.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other sport I didn’t actually play till just lately was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that sport due to your soundtrack. I acquired it once I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was trying on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually take care of a lot of it, however the music was nice. I type of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply metallic albums from Andrew Hulshult quite than devoted sport soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing metallic into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s an important query too like truly yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting rather a lot with simply you realize making massive atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you’ll be able to hear on that soundtrack in case you acquired far sufficient, laughs, but additionally like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually wished to begin dialing up you realize my very own sound and my very own writing and you realize I’d already completed the quilt stuff I wished to wish to present folks what what I might do and so yeah that’s type of actually the place my introduction to love my very own unique items began coming into place, so yeah that’s truly proper. I by no means even thought of that that’s the place that began and likewise like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the tip of 2013 is when improvement began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem sport earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down massive time at that time, and there’s a variety of stuff that by no means made it perhaps I’ll put that up on Twitter in some unspecified time in the future however there’s a variety of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was slightly too aggressive you realize however that stuff would later present up in DOOM you realize. laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, all the pieces was actually good metallic, and this was most likely across the time I used to be primarily listening to metallic earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went via this part once I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which acquired a seven string guitar, and ultimately acquired into Meshuggah. It acquired me excited about how once I take heed to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every sport and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply metallic anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you’ve that concern that everybody is simply going to count on metallic from you while you’re behind a particular soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that typically. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they had been you realize like, as a result of I don’t wish to be like I don’t wish to be like straight up often known as metallic man you realize like I really like metallic I really like taking part in it I’ll make these data all day lengthy as folks so long as folks will take heed to it and even when they gained’t I’ll most likely make them, however yeah I like to color with totally different brushes like particularly once I become old, like I actually take pleasure in mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the arrogance now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a approach out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and chances are high if I prefer it, I can most likely present it to some individuals who will dig it as nicely. I’m so glad to listen to that you simply’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly totally different. I imply if somebody’s not into metallic perhaps they suppose nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you’ll be able to completely inform that DUSK was making an attempt to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I believe it has one in all my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I wish to transfer to AMID EVIL. I really like the soundtrack to the primary sport, however I wish to ask in regards to the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is type of like a private matter as a result of I imagine you had been going via a household emergency throughout the time while you had been recording the soundtrack, proper? Once I was taking part in Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, at any time when I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t suppose I’ve been capable of sit down and digest it that approach but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m certain that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I believe it was on New 12 months’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New 12 months’s Eve. It was the yr earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway via engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart had been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, We’ve got a extremely, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. They usually’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I believe it’s Medicare. I can’t bear in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you will get on Medicare. And you realize, like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they acquired nice care, acquired taken care of. However it was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the course of COVID. So like at any time when he acquired, it was proper in the course of the large Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he acquired admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days they usually truly needed to sedate him for just a few days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they acquired to some extent the place they mentioned we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing rather a lot on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that previous like taking part in with a band and writing songs for you type of vibe getting in. And a variety of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like acquired a variety of power behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s a variety of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has a variety of that as nicely. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my most important outlet for some time. You have got one thing to sit up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have a variety of pressure and a variety of feelings tied to my father nearly passing away and me making an attempt to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t thought of that.
TA: The opposite factor in regards to the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular music I wish to contact on: Splitting Time. This music is attention-grabbing for just a few causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite sport trailers just like the music used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m unsure in case you’ve seen it. However extra attention-grabbing than that’s I used to be taking part in Road Fighter 6 with a pal of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I mentioned it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he wished to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my pal mentioned “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I wished to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that music?
AH: No I didn’t truly. However there may be little hints of that forwards and backwards as a result of gosh, there are moments once I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I assumed Mick did such an important job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is precisely what I’ve been making an attempt to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to take heed to. I believe he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other sport I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of once I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I have to play extra video games with this man’s completed the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this sport? I purchased it and appreciated the music much more than the sport.
AH: That entire soundtrack slaps, man. He did a unbelievable job on that.
Once you notice @AndrewHulshult put his entire bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as a substitute of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ House (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this might be your individual metallic album. I don’t even suppose it must be associated to this sport. And that is one other sport I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s type of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the sport and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than taking part in the sport and I used to be like, OK, I have to get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I wish to simply convey up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is attention-grabbing for Nightmare Reaper. Once I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to convey it up at any time when I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: Every time Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. Every time he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we might simply go off forwards and backwards as a result of he confirmed me a sport that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Properly, let me know in case you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be eager about working with me on this?” And I mentioned, “Yeah, I believe that might be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a metallic document from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve acquired good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight metallic document.” I used to be like, “Properly, it could’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “However it’ll be largely that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a sport. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, you realize, screaming over high of all the pieces as nicely.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I might have written at the moment. You already know, as you go along with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And you realize, however like at the moment, for certain, that’s what you’d have gotten for a metallic document. I believe that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and likewise maintaining the soundtrack dynamic for a sport then?
AH: Um, play via it a variety of instances the place you’ll be able to work out the place you’ll be able to have rests and lulls. And the place any individual’s gonna probably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you simply your self wouldn’t get tired of. And that’s nonetheless attention-grabbing by way of like, you realize, like an ambient observe or like a low power observe that also strikes slightly bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which try to make a chunk that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive power or, uh, simply increased power for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to consider it as like, you’re gluing two or three totally different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a light-weight fight, and it has a heavy fight. They usually’re structured in triggers all through that sport. So I’ve to consider how this ambient works with this low fight music after which work with this excessive fight music. Or this heavy fight music. And do all of them transfer nicely between one another, um, in case you had been to only crossfade them at random instances, you realize? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a type of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the subsequent sport I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even bear in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I bear in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for evaluation, however was blown away by the music. I bear in mind I even joked about that when I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like all the pieces boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus seems like metallic, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier usually. It really works nicely with the aesthetic however I believe Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken rather a lot about Prodeus, however I wished to know what your favourite observe is from that and whether or not you can provide us an attention-grabbing anecdote from composing which individuals may not learn about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is unquestionably my favourite one. Like, for certain. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely wished me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went via, like, this entire nightmare the place I needed to pull the whole soundtrack down throughout the whole, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which after they had been getting nearer to launch they had been like, “Hey, we wish to… we wish to… we would like, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Properly, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.
We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they had been engaged on by way of, like, the degrees and all the pieces that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unimaginable!” So I acquired actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which became issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply making an attempt to consider the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That entire soundtrack is superior. Like, that entire soundtrack, like, it was inbuilt an attention-grabbing time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s acquired these actually attention-grabbing tangents of, uh, the second half of the document’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at house and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, by way of my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my power was targeted on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, you realize? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I believe that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I assumed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gasoline is among the solely instances that I’ve been…Properly, it was one of many first instances I’d completed it in the meanwhile. The place I’d taken an thought and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, you realize, inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit in every single place. It regarded like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually wish to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, perhaps even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video at any time when they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I wish to take that and make a chunk of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there’s the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s known as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s truly utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that type of appears like a drum machine slightly bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digicam, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse forwards and backwards via the beat. After which, you realize, afterward the music is like a variety of guitar stuff to go along with it and all the pieces, however all that stuff that’s occurring with the synthesizer is all primarily based round, you realize, like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
Every time I acquired completed with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an thought, like an idea thought for a chunk of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually happy with that.
TA: Are you able to say something in regards to the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s totally different or attention-grabbing or ought to we simply count on one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m unsure in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom sport stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout most likely someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I believe in a current interview the place you spoke in regards to the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you’ll be able to’t speak a lot about it, however I, don’t wish to know in regards to the soundtrack particularly, I’ll await the film to come back out, however I wish to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the finances out there for the soundtrack modified the way you’re capable of method music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Fully totally different. Like, I assumed that, I assumed that I’d be capable of stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this gained’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a very totally different path. The place I might know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s do this.” I can do this with Mark, however they’re fully totally different conversations. One is, you realize, I do know precisely what’s alleged to be taking place within the sport right here, that is, you realize, you’re selecting up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I’ll get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a distinct emotion. So we’ve to speak about these issues forwards and backwards earlier than I make a chunk of music. So it’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be sincere with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very nicely. And can, uh, recurrently make choices once I hand him a chunk of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, you realize, typically we should lower these forwards and backwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we are able to, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, you realize, like, perhaps I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, probably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I might have completed. Like, how are you this good at modifying these items?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been unbelievable to work with.
The third is in regards to the finances for the film soundtrack and the way it adjustments the way it impacts composition? Budgets had been rather a lot larger. I’ll simply, I’ll simply hold it at that. They had been, they had been, they had been a lot larger. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, resulting from, um, you realize, like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went via. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me all the way down to Austin and Mark mentioned, “Hey, you realize, why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds truly actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I might go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, you realize, what’s occurring in entrance of me, like, 50 ft in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and in reality, um, I’m truly about to leap on a name as a result of I believe they want another, another piece of music.
I’m gonna soar on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I believe they want another piece of music. Um, however it’s, it’s simply been rather a lot. There’s rather a lot there. And it’s selecting the feelings that go the place. So, like, there could be, I wrote all these songs for, you realize, um, catching a vibe of despair, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for pressure, and this, and this, and we’ve this large palette to only select from and decide the place we would like issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I might agree on with video games, however it’s simply, there’s the amount that, like, we’ve completed with stuff is like, whoa, that’s rather a lot! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s discuss your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that truly the primary time you probably did any kind of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you would, you would argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than the rest, I really feel like. And, like, that type of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, it’s a must to keep inside these boundaries of restricted expertise. And it was actually, like, you realize, select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, you realize, triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits primarily based off of that and, like, white noise and all the pieces. And, yeah, that was, that was attention-grabbing.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” You already know, like, fully make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that folks bear in mind probably the most, you realize? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these forwards and backwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad folks prefer it.
TA: I believe, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Swap launch. So once I began taking part in that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I regarded it up and I’m like, “In fact they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however in case you had, like, limitless time and assets, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And in case you would, which one would you decide?
AH: Gosh. Which one could be probably the most attention-grabbing is basically the, uh, the query there. I believe the one that might be probably the most attention-grabbing if I had been to try this could be most likely AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot occurring in a few of these, it could be, it could be a variety of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which are, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which all the way down to, like, 8-bit, you realize? I believe that that might match very well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a problem. Yeah, and time. Time’s the most important one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering one in all your previous soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you simply’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to try this for ROTT if Apogee could be eager about it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than the rest. I believe it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they’ll open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, you realize? When’s the precise time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Spoil, I believe is a sport you composed a very long time in the past, not less than in gaming, like, just a few years in the past, and it lastly launched this yr. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I believe they most likely wouldn’t count on it to be you after they take heed to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I really like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply metallic, like, you have to get that into your head, like, that seems like a type of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was attention-grabbing forwards and backwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I believe he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I wished straight up, like, nearly no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he wished some guitar combined in there, and like, we’d butt heads forwards and backwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out slightly bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I believe we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was slightly, slightly extra powerful, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, you realize, as folks know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in direction of about midway via, perhaps slightly, even slightly sooner than that, and I might see a few of that occuring in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s laborious to make artwork for when you realize that the product itself is having some issues. However I believe Christalynne Pyle did a very good job with wrapping all the pieces up in direction of the tip of it, which was a activity in and of itself, for certain. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I believe Fred wished like, like straight up, like actually excessive metallic tracks at one level. I believe they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this sport. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that all the pieces in the long run was capable of have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that sport. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that would have, that would have been useful, but additionally on the similar time, that’s a giant what if. You already know, like, as a result of there’s two issues that it’s a must to consider. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. You already know, what are the restrictions that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work nicely, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take folks out of it?
As a result of all people remembers just like the OG Quake having like, you realize, each map had its music. Properly, I say that. It was a disc operating that simply performed a bunch of music. However mainly, each map had a music for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I believe it’s cool. I believe it’s, it’s, it’s acquired some actually attention-grabbing moments in it the place like, one in all them the place I used to be, I simply mentioned, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar via a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s one in all my favourite items from that. I believe that’s in direction of the tip. However, um, yeah, it was slightly little bit of a battle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went via it. I had enjoyable, and I believe that everyone that labored on it was fairly happy with it by the tip.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program truly speak to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio an entire bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from those that work there that at the moment are, like, I take into account nice buddies, the place they might attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they might be saying, you realize, hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be at all times identical to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, you realize? Um, and I, you realize, way back to that, I used to be identical to, hey, in case you ever, you realize, in case you ever, in case you ever want music, let me know, you realize? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, you realize, like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I believe it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the yr earlier than, or one thing like that, after they actually began exhibiting a few of the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve acquired that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be at all times eager about, find a, a option to work with that studio, trigger I really like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA desirous to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I at all times wished to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out nearly as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get widespread sufficient, it’ll communicate for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, after they approached me, I believe it was, truly it was, I believe it was quarter two of 2020, and mentioned, hey, we, uh, we’re ready the place we want, we want music, the place we want music, and, uh, we want it shortly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They absolutely had been, they knew what they had been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time period, they usually mentioned, you realize, we are able to completely use the bottom sport stuff, however we wished to not less than attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we are able to belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these folks by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, you realize what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this appears like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, you realize, I needed to hold my composure the whole time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, you realize, like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM sport, uh, and when, however after we acquired completed with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a type of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, you realize, a mod challenge, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I hold operating into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing at all times surprises me like that.
TA: I believe it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who let you know they love your music convey up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I believe each individual I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks like the preferred factor and all, and for you that’s most likely a bizarre feeling as a result of you’ve this music which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually happy with, however you’ll be able to’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any type? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Properly, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me nicely for it, so like I used to be comfortable to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so you realize, in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that might be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however typically studios do this, typically they don’t, and it’s simply fully as much as their name, however I’ll let you know that they don’t have any downside with you, you realize, grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so do this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your cellphone, no matter you wish to do, they only, they’re simply glad that you simply just like the stuff, and so am I, to be sincere, however hey, hopefully at some point we are able to get an official launch, like, that might be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as nicely. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been excited about as a result of it’s most likely a troublesome state of affairs so that you can be in, as a result of folks would who wish to assist you, like, clearly they’ll purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, however it’s an unlucky state of affairs for followers, is all, like, I’ll go away it at that.
AH: It’s probably not like a bizarre state of affairs in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id wish to do with that, as a result of they had been fully up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s nice, I simply wish to assist, I wish to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at house, and I wish to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, you realize, oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know persons are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s nice. However, you realize, hopefully, I wish to see an official launch at some point, however that’s fully as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they wish to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply discuss Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that music? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom sport or let you know to only go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They advised me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, you realize, what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly robust. Like, that’d be like any individual strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, you realize, like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, you realize, like, no, that’s not how that works. You must serve what got here earlier than you. You must present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually vital for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an government producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, it’s a must to make it possible for no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, you realize, why you selected this. So actually, for me, it after they had been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you suppose serves Doom the most effective. I used to be like, nicely, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, you realize, I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I might wish to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is totally different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, you realize, like, Blood Swamps is sort of a bit totally different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s slightly bit extra, that is, uh, that is like nearly like a standard metallic music. And like, the truth is, uh, I bear in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, metallic. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re shocked. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra nearly conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I might hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they might be like, you realize, “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Properly, what did you, you realize, what are you considering? Present me the devices that you simply’re working with and, you realize, like, let’s simply speak stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we’d all simply be taught from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from some extent, I simply bear in mind, I’ve to jot down one thing that if that is the one DOOM sport I work on, it needs to be simply, like, approach on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to only take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out the entire boundaries which are like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who offers a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this cut-off date, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which all the pieces else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We will do various things now.” You already know?
TA: I believe you talked about the way you had just a few weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the assist system of these two, it was all attainable in the long run. I believe you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a stage, after which I acquired these two ranges, in order that they cut up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many instances the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing right this moment?” You already know? And one in all us could be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” You already know? And we’d simply speak forwards and backwards, and in some way we’d give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I have to do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you consider revisiting these songs? Like, did you’re feeling like, you realize, perhaps I ought to have completed one thing in a different way? Or had been you want, “No, I’m pleased with this. I simply wish to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was slightly tiny little bit of, “I wish to do issues slightly in a different way.” However, like, I’m speaking to essentially, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than the rest. And if one thing was being harmful whereas making an attempt to protect it, these had been the issues that I might attempt to eradicate. An instance of that’s there was a variety of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an residence that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine choices that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply a few of the compression aspect, like, on the grasp of it, is slightly aggressive.
So once I went again this time round, I truly went via each single a type of songs one after the other and simply gave it slightly bit extra head room, slightly bit extra respiration room, in order that in case you take heed to it sufficient instances, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s the entire Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all acquired that therapy the place the brink has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds slightly bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and perhaps like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: It’s best to revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s unattainable to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have completed that. I’ve re-recorded that complete document and I see it on YouTube from time to time. I’m like that is… this might have been a cool document if it could have sounded okay, and perhaps some construction adjustments had been totally different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I believe when Metallica did Loss of life Magnetic, they’d the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this hold taking place?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so massive that they legitimately have ultimate say on all the pieces that they do. So at any time when they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I bear in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are brilliant.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine choices on the street. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound approach higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of once I watched Deafheaven and the way superb they sounded stay. You have got so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get exterior assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it at any time when I see a band that has a document that’s simply fully smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew the right way to play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew the right way to play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of men within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s unique DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did nearly a whole Doom II soundtrack. I believe there was one observe which was on YouTube or two tracks. Once you had been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come to date forward as a musician and did you’re feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus making an attempt to be Doom II? How did you method that?
AH: Man. This entire IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unimaginable expertise. It seems like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what acquired me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Properly, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was a giant one and I nonetheless get folks which are like devs that attain out which are like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So at any time when I sat down… Every time Marty Stratton despatched me an e mail a few yr and a half in the past to ask if I had time to sit down down at QuakeCon final yr and discuss some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly unsuitable or he simply needs to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an thought.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we provide you with a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA in an effort to put that out on the entire streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and all the pieces.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this might simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Wish to go from the Bobby Prince to this if folks wished to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks just lately anyhow.
About midway via that entire factor, we had been simply buying and selling warfare tales in regards to the trade and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be considering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting slightly emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll let you know what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the true deal?” Folks have requested for it without end. I’m like, “That might actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “In case you’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you simply do on that as nicely in an effort to put that out as nicely.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He advised me at first, he mentioned, “Hey, you realize, do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the explanation folks wish to take heed to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I wish to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we acquired stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked forwards and backwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Working from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, you realize, like, what in case you did this?” It was solely a pair instances the place he was like, “What in case you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They had been at all times cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s capability to throw out issues from time to time. He’s only a nice individual to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the tip of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t imagine that that is taking place. I can’t imagine that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, stay on stage and announce all the pieces. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these items in order that I can put it out and I can truly make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with a giant studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m certain I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” You already know, like, “Holy cow.” However it’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I wished it to be one thing slightly bit extra contemporary on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I had been to try this, I’d have to return and fully remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that needs to be preserved. Folks know what that’s.” So you’ll be able to’t contact that. That’s already completed. So I assumed, “Okay, nicely what if I simply gave them how I might do DOOM II proper now?” Which is precisely what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise choices that I might make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I believe all the pieces slams. I believe it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It acquired formally launched in 2016, however it began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s type of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it undoubtedly seems like trendy Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I believe I nearly went in chronological order doing that complete soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been taking part in DOOM for the reason that 90s. Once I began studying guitar and taking part in rather a lot, I began excited about the DOOM soundtrack and a few of the songs undoubtedly have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. Once you did IDKFA and simply heard the music usually, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Degree and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like typically, proper? However it’s totally different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s undoubtedly some inspirations that had been taken from like thrash metallic for certain. As a result of I imply, like they at all times talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like taking part in whereas they had been making the sport. So it solely is sensible that they’re like, you realize, hey, make one thing comparable round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, you realize, I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for certain. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten folks saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one music, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I believe I did that only for enjoyable. And I believe I truthfully did that as folks had been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about folks unsure like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a completely introduced sport, however they had been like, “I’m unsure Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, you realize what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And then you definately’ll see if I’m the precise individual for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and other people had been like, oh, and I bear in mind like a bunch of the feedback had been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you take heed to that soundtrack typically? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t take heed to it. Take heed to it. However like each time I am going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a yr. A bit greater than that if I’m taking part in multiplayer with buddies. That’s the factor I sit up for probably the most moreover like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such a very good job on that. It’s unimaginable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing in some unspecified time in the future. That might be loopy. However they’re like approach up there, you realize.
TA: Their film soundtracks are superb. I’ve truly been watching a few of the motion pictures simply because they’ve completed the music as a result of I believe the audio design in The Social Community is unimaginable. I believe they did just like the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to observe.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re recognized for such as you’re offended and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we coated Blood Swamps being the preferred music which individuals convey up after they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Final Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a few music which he actually appreciated, however nobody truly brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He mentioned Game Theory. I wish to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s nicely it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, you realize. However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I speak in regards to the music, the DLC is unimaginable. Like that’s my that’s one in all my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in current reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and all the pieces. It’s simply an unimaginable DLC. In case you don’t have it, you must go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unimaginable job.
TA: Everybody can purchase that sport and DLC.
AH: Properly, I don’t wish to appear like a shill. In case you prefer it, you prefer it. Like in case you don’t, in case you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. You already know we’re not not right here to love, you realize try to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like type of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more comfy with a variety of the extra aggressive sound design components being combined in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And all the pieces actually got here collectively on that observe and out at any time when midway via I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss observe. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss observe. And you realize, two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss observe. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be identical to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that music may be very a lot a very good indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s discuss your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I wish to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing probably the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I truly simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I believe I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a extremely attention-grabbing factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids an entire bunch however they nonetheless lower via very well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, you realize, like chugging on stuff and it’s a must to observe that 4 instances, it simply sits rather a lot higher within the combine than in case you had been to only use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing unsuitable with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing model I simply, I do know what I need by way of pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor truly final week with the 8 string. This can be a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t suppose they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as nicely to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t bear in mind what they’re known as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they might maintain the highest finish within the midrange slightly bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply at all times been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually appreciated at a store known as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually wish to put these in my 8 string they usually have a tech there that’s simply unimaginable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be identical to, hey, order these and I’ll simply go away the guitar with you and like per week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I wished, sounds unimaginable.
I’ve acquired my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had through the years for probably the most half. I’ve acquired one other Schecter 8 string right here that may be a actually cool coloration. It’s tremendous neat, like, it truly adjustments from blue to purple.
TA: I believe it’s known as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on one in all his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s truly fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I truly wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I nearly was identical to, right here, you guys, you want this. You already know, like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM sport, you realize? Like, it needs to be one thing like a mainline sport the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. You already know, if you would like this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And in addition, a part of me is like, no, don’t do this. Like, hold on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I believe it’s 10 to 65. After which usually on 6 strings, I identical to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you utilize D’Addario strings? I exploit them largely.
AH: I exploit D’Addario for probably the most half, however I bounce forwards and backwards typically to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve bought nearly each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos approach again within the day. Those that had been like, yeah, those that had been, had been mainly copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as nicely too. And I bought all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for probably the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting one in all these just lately, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So mainly that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a challenge I’m engaged on just lately they had been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re most likely proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy phases. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re strong state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper aspect of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein document that used them I at all times wished to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound enormous.
TA: I wasn’t certain about this as a result of a pal of mine mentioned he was certain AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve completed has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from approach again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about all the pieces since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging straight into my RME UFX and typically I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that acquired probably the most use on DUSK had been the Moogerfooger low move filter. Consider it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing changing into type of lo-fi or something. It was at all times run via this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it probably the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a extremely attention-grabbing sound and like that sound that you simply hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like the entire actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive power. It’s nearly just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And similar approach with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s just some of them. I believe there’s another that I exploit rather a lot. I don’t suppose I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing unit which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply appears like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply appears like you’re destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s an important impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve achieved rather a lot in your profession to date with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your individual abilities like programming drums, software program, and the way do you steadiness doing that whilst you have a variety of people who wish to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Every single day is rather like I don’t know. In case you’re not educating your self one thing each day, that is my practice of thought. If I’m not making an attempt to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I believe is best, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum package I’ve used like two or 3 times on two to a few totally different data, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and the right way to make it sound good then I would like to vary that drum package. I would like to seek out one thing totally different and work with it and see if I can get some totally different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my approach out of it.
It’s type of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually vital as an artist to just be sure you are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, you realize, right here’s one thing that’s fully unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what it’s a must to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply always difficult myself is a part of who I’m for probably the most half. So, it’s simply the way it at all times goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties an important factor turned getting good sleep which lots of people take with no consideration of their twenties. So my query is that making an attempt to have a routine is essential even in case you can’t keep on with it 100%. What does a day in your life appear like proper now?
AH: A day proper now seems to be like about, a typical day is about anyplace between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I would like I’ve discovered, prefer it’s like someplace round there, typically 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel nice waking up fully recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one approach I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve acquired to it seems like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t understand how else to clarify that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and suppose, oh I ought to do that, I ought to do this, I’ll be excited about all the pieces I have to do after which by no means truly do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m certain it’s to some extent which I’ll get to that in some unspecified time in the future however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I wish to do this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous vital for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which all the pieces simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s type of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock usually I’ll now try to do, this has been inside the final 3.5 months, I’ll try to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some cause elevating my coronary heart fee actually takes me from hey I might focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser targeted and may get via no matter I have to and it additionally places me in a significantly better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you simply love taking part in Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however you realize like I haven’t gone again to it but. I have to attempt it once more in some unspecified time in the future. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven at any time when I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be identical to wow.
TA: I imply you most likely tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I identical to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I might get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of taking part in.
AH: Even with the 3080 I believe I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you attempt the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. That they had some actually attention-grabbing selections with their UI that they only pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting slightly extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair instances per week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David from time to time. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, identical to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply buddies. So Leon, me and Leon play it I believe probably the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America taking part in a web-based fps sport is a wild factor however we’ve a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I wish to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be sincere with you. I have to department out slightly extra. Favourite bands exterior of video video games proper now like for certain they usually’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re stay. I like their selections on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a nasty music. I might throw out the apparent ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Exterior of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless suppose and it’s going to be a bizarre selection since you’re like nicely you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on all the pieces he touches and all the pieces he touches is at all times distinctive. However I at all times return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games very well. In case you take heed to it exterior of it, it seems like a extremely bizarre chilly type of soundtrack. Even from the very first sport which has a variety of attention-grabbing issues like nearly drum and bass selections. It nonetheless seems like a chilly entrance.
You already know, like a Hitman. And I at all times simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was capable of take so many various genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match accurately for that character. So yeah and I believe he labored on the Darktide stuff extra just lately which I would like to provide a take heed to. Everyone’s advised me that’s unimaginable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 lively developments at any time when that sport got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical state of affairs, in case you had no time or finances constraints, in case you might compose for any single sport and any single film which might you decide?
AH: So let’s see for any sport if it had the precise path I’d actually prefer to take a shot at like a Duke sport. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that might be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the precise approach. And it’s a must to suppose that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the inventive manufacturing is on the time. So if it was completed in the precise approach I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Similar to relax you realize. Like simply make one thing that’s fully chill. So these are fully two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s an important query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I really like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I believe he’s nice. However quantity two at any time when he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t understand how else to clarify it apart from he does a f***ing loopy unbelievable job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A kind of two soundtracks I believe I might do could be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many various feelings between each of these movies. It’s a giant curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like you realize, it takes you aspect to aspect. Like each of these movies do that basically nicely.
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TA: You have got a variety of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their current or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the data that they put out as a result of like I’m a die laborious. Even with this final Megadeth document. I might nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No downside. Completely. However you realize these guys aren’t going to jot down like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. You already know what I imply? They usually struck it 4 instances. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Journey the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So prefer to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I believe What was the 2016 document that they’d? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I believe that that truly had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final observe. I felt like Hardwired was an important observe. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous nicely. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that document. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m unsure if it’s as a result of I’m on the lookout for one thing quicker or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at in the meanwhile. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final observe on that document I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t bear in mind what it’s known as off the highest of my head in the meanwhile. I’m horrible with music names typically. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it seems like a 5 minute and 30 second music. I bear in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this music that it’s only a pleasure to take heed to. I adore it once I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I take pleasure in. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary document that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
TA: What’s probably the most random piece of music memorabilia that you simply’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a pal that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on laborious instances at one level and he was buddies and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m making an attempt to do away with these items I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s you realize right here’s some money in case you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve acquired this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many unique vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to one in all their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this you realize like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply you realize had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 or 6 of them that they gave him accidentally so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I wish to say 15 16 17 years now however these previous ones won’t ever go away.
Some folks hold costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I hold hand-crafted chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I normally ask this on the finish, however I bear in mind an previous Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more interested by your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I cherished sizzling espresso without end however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I am going the simpler it’s to only sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t should be like that’s sizzling. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting the entire caffeine abruptly if I wish to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d prefer to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous few weeks.
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